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nedbatstakkars: if this is a simple fix, I'd be glad to take a stab at it.  I'm not sure how many of the last few lines in here are directed at me.00:09
nedbatcan someone tell me about the status of sandbox mode?  Am I barking up a stale tree?00:09
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stakkarsown-win-x86-64 runs now in 55 minutes, like tannic does.00:16
stakkarsbut I know I can accelerate it by at least 15 minutes, by proper test ordering.00:17
stakkarswill try that, tomorrow00:17
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kenaan12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 119ce050b260cd 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_dtype.py: consistancy04:05
kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 11a731ffd298b4 15/pypy/: started working on support for creating array get/set item at compile time04:05
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fijalhi09:00
hakanardomorning09:00
fijalhi hakan09:02
fijalnice, gmail chat just stopped working09:05
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stakkarshi, we need to restart the buildbot/machine. It has memoryerror.09:53
stakkarsI would like to host it in the future, have a very big machine.09:53
stakkarswyvern is maybe overloaded09:54
Action: stakkars off, FSCONS09:55
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kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 116a9c9a3e0c43 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/: kill insert_loop_token10:04
kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 110436b59b6130 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/test/test_compile.py: fix test10:04
kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 11ed426958d5e2 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/test/: fix tests10:05
kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 1116b76159c68e 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/: make sure history.Stats dont keep things alive10:05
kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 11224f5793feda 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/compile.py: propagate quasi_immutable_deps10:05
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-Martinp23 (martinp23@freenode/staff/martinp23) to $$*- [Global Notice] Hi folks. Over the next 30 mins or so I'll be doing some network upgrades. This will be in two stages. First, there will be a huge netsplit, followed by smaller netsplits. About 2700 users will lose connections as a result. I'll send messages directly to users on servers which will be restarted in a moment (zelazny, kornbluth). Thanks for your patience and have a great sunday.13:02
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nedbatcan someone tell me about the status of sandbox mode?  It doesn't build for me using the 1.6 sources.  Should I expect it to work?13:07
fijalnedbat: hm, it should build13:08
fijalcan you paste the error?13:08
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nedbatfijal: sorry, seems like IRC split for a while.13:14
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fijalnedbat: I'm here13:15
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stakkarsHi, can somebody please look into wyvern? The buildbot has memoryerror13:16
nedbati don't know if my paste got through.13:16
fijalwyvern?13:16
nedbatfijal: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/14889/13:16
fijaldo we use wyvern?13:16
stakkarsI think the buildmaster sits there13:16
fijalnedbat: what's your platform?13:17
stakkarsand it cannut show the summary pages13:17
fijalnice13:17
nedbatfijal: it's a fresh ubuntu 11.10 install, with the pypy dependencies installed.13:18
nedbat(in a virtualbox on windows, though i can't imagine that matters)13:18
stakkarswhich is the only reason to run BB at all :) 13:18
fijalnedbat: and you don't have clock_gettime?13:18
fijalthat sounds weird13:18
fijalLink with -lrt.13:18
fijalmaybe that's the problem13:18
nedbatfijal: googling that error message suggests that the order of ld arguments needs to change in the makefile.13:18
fijalpfff13:19
nedbatfijal: if you could point me where to try something like that, i will.13:19
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nedbatfijal: I know zero about the pypy source.13:19
fijalnedbat: it's not sandbox specific13:19
fijalI can tell you that13:20
nedbatok13:20
nedbatis there some other package I need to install to make it work?13:20
fijalnedbat: no no, it's probably a bug that does not show up earlier for some reason13:20
fijal(like ld order changed or something)13:21
fijalnedbat: just a second, fighting with buildbot13:21
nedbatfijal: yeah, it didn't seem like something i could apt-get13:21
fijalstakkars: it's not a restart issue13:21
nedbatok13:21
fijalstakkars: just too many failures issue13:21
stakkarsHahaa, thanks to whoever it did13:21
fijalhttp://buildbot.pypy.org/summary13:21
fijalworks for a while nayway13:21
fijalI suppose13:21
fijalstakkars: why do you run buildbot with so many failures btw?13:21
fijalisn't it easier to jsut fix tests dir by dir?13:22
fijalnedbat: ok, your issue13:22
nedbatfijal: do you want the complete output of translate.py?13:22
fijalnedbat: no13:22
stakkarsI tested the slave due to windows issues13:23
stakkarsNeeded a full list of errors to find crashes of the windows slave first13:26
stakkarsfijal: What did you do to fix it?13:27
fijalnedbat: ok, got a failing test13:27
fijalstakkars: I simply restarted the buildmaster, but expect the issue to come back13:27
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fijalpffff13:28
fijalnedbat: obscure :(13:28
fijalnedbat: I'll fix it though13:28
nedbatis it?13:28
stakkarsAh, does the buildmaster not start a subprocess, then?13:28
fijalstakkars: no idea really13:28
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nedbatfijal: so I'll need to use tip to build sandbox.13:33
fijalnedbat: probably13:33
fijalnedbat: well, it's really simple to fix (probably)13:34
fijalonce you built it, go and edit makefile and add -rt13:34
fijal-lrt13:34
fijalor modify order or so13:34
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fijalwhere "there" = /tmp/usession-<xxx>/testing_113:34
nedbatok, just as others on google are suggesting.13:34
fijalyeah13:34
fijala bit more annoying to do that automatically13:35
fijalannoying to test at least13:35
fijal"works for me"13:35
fijalI fear13:35
nedbatis this due to my ubuntu version?  13:35
fijalI don't know yet13:35
fijalit seems my ubuntu is fine with this order13:36
fijalwhile some other is not13:36
fijalnedbat: what did you read about it?13:36
nedbatfijal: just random questions like this one: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=8810813:38
nedbathttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/2418157/ubuntu-linux-c-error-undefined-reference-to-clock-gettime-and-clock-settim13:38
fijalnedbat: can you paste me somewhere your makefile?13:38
nedbatok, one sec.13:38
fijalmine seems to be ok13:39
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nedbatfijal: i should find it in /tmp/usession... ?13:39
voidspace (~voidspace@python/psf/voidspace) got lost in the net-split.13:40
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fijalyes13:40
fijalin testing_1/Makefile13:40
nedbatyes, sorry13:40
nedbathttp://paste.pound-python.org/show/14907/13:40
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kenaan12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11a0719edc5e5e 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: Fix until some tests start passing. Introduce more iterators13:46
kenaan12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 1135103929b924 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_numarray.py: progress13:46
kenaan12fijal default 11ad8b93cf993c 15/pypy/translator/platform/: Try to fix the issue with -lrt being at the beginning and not at the end.13:46
fijalnedbat: here you go13:46
nedbatfijal: do you think that will be apply-able to 1.6,  or should I grab the tip?13:47
fijaldepends what you're trying to achieve13:47
fijalyou can just modify the makefile and be happy13:47
fijalif you want to just compile it13:48
fijal(no need to retranslate even)13:48
nedbatok, thanks, I've got a few options at least.  Thanks for the fix.13:48
fijalbut anyway, what's the point of using 1.6 sources?13:48
nedbatfijal: i just figured no matter how stable the tip, the released code couldn't be less stable.13:48
fijalnot true :)13:49
fijalour releases are just nightlies13:49
nedbatfijal: yeah... :)13:49
fijalwe have quite a bit different methodology than say CPython13:49
fijalbut in general (barring few instances) nightly is more stable than the release13:50
nedbatis that due to the unstable releases or the super-stable tip?13:50
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fijalthe latter13:51
fijaland a general believe in TDD13:51
nedbatyou might want to change the site then:  "There are nightly binary builds available. Those builds are not always as stable as the release, but they contain numerous bugfixes and performance improvements."13:51
fijalthat's very correct13:52
fijalthey're not *always*13:52
fijaland if nightlies are super-red (a lot of test failures), they're not13:53
fijalbut they do contain numerous bugfixes13:53
nedbatyes, ok, i don't mean to nit-pick.  Thanks for the fix.13:53
fijalfor example last week was a sprint, hence someone might have broken srtuff :)13:53
fijalso you look at nightly test runs13:54
fijalit's slightly more complex than just super-stable13:54
nedbatof course.13:54
nedbatfijal: I don't mean to be a pest, but the tip is unhappy sooner:  http://paste.pound-python.org/show/14908/14:01
fijalI suppose this is a good example where tip is not that stable14:04
fijalyou can see this on a nightly buildbot run, if you care14:04
nedbat:) lesson learned!14:04
fijalyeah, usual thing that happens around sprints, people don't do stuff on branches correctly14:04
fijalwe don't have yet a mechanism to copy latest-working-tip14:05
fijalhttp://buildbot.pypy.org/nightly/trunk/14:05
fijalthis is your good bet14:05
fijalpypy-c-jit-48894-56079dacea0014:05
fijalshould be good14:05
fijaljust apply the same patch14:05
nedbatwhat does None mean in the tests column?14:05
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fijalsome versions don't have some buildbots14:06
fijalwe don't have infinite amount of machines14:06
fijalespecially osx and win ones14:06
fijal(jitnojit is not that interesting)14:06
nedbatok,  and applevel tests?  There's no green entry in that column?14:06
fijaland pestering is fine :)14:06
fijalhttp://buildbot.pypy.org/summary14:07
fijalhere you can see what went wrong14:07
nedbatthanks.14:07
fijalctypes is unfinished14:07
fijaland there are recent problems with obscure math overflow errors14:07
fijalsprint is not a good stability time I fear :/14:07
nedbatok, i totally understand.  I have your fix, which is simple, and I will try it on a stable build, thanks.14:09
fijalyes, sorry14:09
fijalit's usually more stable14:10
nedbatnp14:10
fijalthere is also 1.7 release branch14:10
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nedbatfijal: in your fix, you want an empty list in translator/platform/__init__.py instead of an empty tuple.15:42
fijaluh15:43
fijalsorry15:43
fijalof course15:43
nedbatnp, just trying to give back! :)15:43
kenaan12fijal default 1138f173ee998a 15/pypy/translator/platform/__init__.py: for concatenation to work, this has to be an empty list (thanks ned)15:45
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kenaan12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11214d0b29208f 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_numarray.py: pass few more tests. everything has shards and backshards15:56
kenaan12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11466d59c9ff2a 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: fix multidim tests15:56
Action: fijal ponders if those are shards or strides15:57
fijalpom pom pom16:03
fijalAlex_Gaynor: we need to rethink stuff like reduce functions16:04
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Alex_Gaynorfijal: why?16:12
fijalbecause of bridges16:13
Alex_Gaynorwhat does the reduce function have to do with bridges?16:14
fijalargmax is not reduce I presume?16:15
fijalmax/argmax things like that ;-)16:15
Alex_Gaynorthose have nothing to do with bridges16:15
Alex_Gaynorerr with reduce16:15
fijalok16:16
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fijalanyway, with those16:27
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fijalcrash16:49
Action: fijal hates bugs in py.test16:49
fijalnice16:51
fijalAlex_Gaynor: from the did you know department16:51
fijaldid you know that numpy raises string exception *type*16:51
Alex_Gaynorfijal: for what?16:51
fijal('multiarray.error', 'attempt to get argmax/argmin of an empty sequence', <traceback object at 0x353ee60>)16:51
fijalfor numpy.array(()).argmax()16:51
fijalthis is my sys.exc_info()16:52
fijalnotably raises crashes16:52
fijalnot really surprising16:52
Alex_Gaynorpff, what do they do no py3k?16:52
fijalno idea16:52
fijalI think this is fairly illegal even on py3k16:53
fijalpy2k16:53
fijalhm16:53
fijalI'll do something inefficient for now I believe16:53
nedbatfijal: fyi, that patch didn't seem to correct the issue, but now that i see where you can make those changes, I will see what I can do to make it compile.16:54
fijalgreat16:54
fijalthe innefficiency will go away with specialized tuples maybe anyway16:54
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kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 1148644296897a 15/pypy/: start working on the JIT optimization16:57
kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 11cc246e01cada 15/pypy/jit/: progress, gets are now compiled and executed properly16:57
Alex_Gaynorfijal: llimpl is one big pile of "how could that have ever worked... oh"16:59
amaurysome day, alex will have touched all files17:00
amauryand I will be able to read his commit diffs :-)17:00
fijalwhat's that?17:00
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fijalbroadcasting is a mess btw17:02
kenaan12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11a90cb67cd9f9 15/: make more tests pass17:04
fijalgood17:05
fijalI'm down to repr/str/broadcasting17:05
kenaan12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11054e78d993dc 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_numarray.py: one more test17:05
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Alex_Gaynorfijal: cool, I'm down to yaks on my branch :)17:07
Alex_Gaynorfijal: I guess you should file a bug with py about the string exception issue17:10
fijalI bet it's illegal to pass strings as exception type17:11
fijalyou can'17:12
fijalt do raise "a", "b"17:12
fijalyou can only do that from C and CPython doesn't seem to care17:12
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kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 11af9eea9cddb5 15/pypy/jit/: implement the optimization for set17:14
Alex_Gaynorfijal: pff, of course it doesn't17:14
fijalI suppose we can fill a bug against cpython17:15
fijalbut then maybe python 3 cares17:15
Alex_Gaynorfijal: is there a reason test_fficall isn't mixed in on the backends?17:15
fijalno idea17:16
Alex_Gaynorstupid yaks17:16
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amauryfijal: With Python3, PyErr_SetXXX only accepts Exceptions17:25
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amauryI'd like to generalize error.operationerrfmt()18:38
amauryand probably have the equivalent of PyString_FromFormat18:38
amaurywhich accepts %d, %s (RPython strings), %S (call space.str) and %R (call space.repr)18:39
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ronnyamaury: i wonder if newstyle string formating makes sense for that19:39
Alex_Gaynorronny: doesn't really work so long as RPython needs to be 2.5 compatible19:39
ronnyanything other than the buils slaes holding that?19:40
Alex_Gaynorronny: armin :)19:40
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amauryronny: probably won't be enough20:03
amaurystr.__mod__ is pure RPython20:03
amauryno object space there20:04
ronnyamaury: but newstyle string formating has the extended formatter classes where you can pass in own modifiers20:05
ronny(and extra objects)20:05
nedbatI'm looking for more advice about my build problem.  fijal committed a change to help, but it isn't enough.  I get "undefined reference to `clock_gettime'20:05
nedbat".20:05
nedbatAdvice on the net is to add -lrt after all the .o files in the link command.20:06
nedbatDoing that seems to help, but:  I can't figure out how to change all the platform/linux.py (etc) code to make this happen, and I don't know if it's worth it,b/c i don't know why my build fails when others' do not.20:07
kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 11da2860819b0f 15/pypy/jit/: support in teh x86 backend20:07
exarkunnedbat: What platform are you on?20:07
nedbatexarkun: I'm on a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10, specifically for building pypy.20:09
exarkunInteresting.20:09
exarkunI haven't tried building on anything newer than 11.0420:10
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Alex_Gaynornedbat: that's pretty strange, I'm building fine on ubuntu 11.1020:11
nedbatexarkun: if this is something that will soon be a problem for everyone, i don't mind dealing with it.20:11
Alex_Gaynorclock_gettime is a posix std function I don't see how you could bemissing it :/20:11
nedbatAlex_Gaynor: hmm, is there some way for us to compare?20:11
nedbatAlex_Gaynor: there are a number of people on the net having this issue, and the fix they mention works for me too.20:12
Alex_Gaynornedbat: ah, os it's just a matter of getting our makefile to contain the fix or something?20:12
Alex_GaynorI know absolutely nothing about the platform code unfortunately, so I can't be much help.20:12
nedbatAlex_Gaynor: well, it might be that simple.  By editing the makefile in /tmp/usession/test (etc) I got a pypy-c built, but when I ran it it immediately died with a memoryerror, so the problem may be deeper.20:14
Alex_Gaynor:/20:14
nedbatI didn't know if hand-editing and typing "make" was a realistic simulation of a build.20:14
pjenveyok so it was -lrt. it lookd like we were already passign that20:14
pjenveynow it looks like we *really are* passing it w/ fijal's fix, but apparently not =\20:15
amaurypjenvey: your changes to type's repr broke translation of py3k20:16
amauryI'm afraid RPython str.__mod__ is not unicode-ready20:16
nedbatpjenvey: it's always been passed, but actually fijal's fix doesn't pass it, b/c the makefile writer wasn't updated,20:16
nedbatpjenvey: it's where in the cmd -lrt appears that matters, it has to be after all the .o files, and there's no variable for that yet, so it's got to be a larger fix.20:17
pjenveyamaury - ok, i suppose we just need unicode.__mod__20:17
amaurywhich should support both strings and unicodes!20:17
Alex_Gaynoramaury: shouldn't it be automatically templated over the str typ?20:18
kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 115545a3c93d51 15/pypy/jit/backend/x86/: optimize {get,set}interiorfield_{raw,gc} for itemsizes that can be addressed using special x...20:18
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pjenveyi originally implemented it that way, wonder why I changed my mind20:20
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kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 1134a22813b598 15/pypy/jit/backend/x86/test/test_fficall.py: forgotten test file20:28
kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 1127cd35fd7358 15/pypy/jit/backend/x86/test/test_fficall.py: missing attr20:29
kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 1101ed1de7dd3e 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/test/: fix tests20:43
kenaan12hakanardo jit-targets 11e3289bc8ecbc 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/: translation fix20:43
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fijalweird21:53
fijalnedbat: what's missing?21:53
Alex_Gaynorfijal: want to review jit-dynamicgetarrayitem?21:54
fijalnot *right now*"21:54
fijalI can do it tomorrow21:54
Alex_Gaynorcool, thanks21:54
fijalwhat does it do?21:54
fijalI'm flying 2morrow, so it might take until tue21:56
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Alex_Gaynorfijal: adds a way to create getarrayitem_raws dynamically when you know offset at jitcompile time21:58
fijaldynamically as in?21:58
nedbatfijal: the cchange you made will affect the live execution via subprocess, but doesn't get the option into the makefile.22:02
nedbatAlex_Gaynor: can you give me a specific build command you use, I can try it and we can find the difference, ok?22:02
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Alex_Gaynornedbat: ./pypy/translator/goal/translate.py -Ojit22:13
Alex_Gaynorfijal: as it,not known at RPython compile time22:13
Alex_Gaynorfijal: so e.g. it works with numpy arrays of custom dtypes22:13
bbot24Failure: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/700 [12alex, jit-dynamic-getarrayitem]22:16
fijalAlex_Gaynor: cool, I'll review it on the planwe22:22
fijaland hopefully commit it on Tue22:22
Alex_Gaynorcool, where are you flying?22:23
fijalto cape town22:23
fijalprobably22:23
Alex_Gaynorprobably? ;)22:23
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gsneddersI'm failing to get jitviewer working, Flask is failing with no module on __import__(import_name). Known issue?22:36
fijalgsnedders: unclear, install older flask maybe?22:37
fijalflask rules are a bit awkward if you ask em22:38
fijalalso, you need to install it, you can't run it from the source checkout22:38
gsneddersRight, runs with older Flask fine22:40
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Action: fijal is a bit clueless22:41
fijalI guess complain on #pocoo22:41
fijaland then come with a way to run on both :)22:41
gsneddersSo is there any order to what jitviewer shows?22:42
fijalit usually shows by the number of runs of each loop22:43
gsneddersNumber of runs?22:43
fijalbut id depends what did you pass as arguments to PYPYLOG22:43
gsneddersAlso, what could cause "Unknowns"?22:43
fijaljitdrivers from locations that are not python code22:44
fijallike, map, numpy array operations, regular expressions etc.22:44
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fijalit's possible to find out where they're from, but it has not been done22:45
gsneddersmap? How does map fall into that category? Isn't its argument just a function object?22:45
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kenaan12edelsohn ppc-jit-backend 113bebd83ccde0 15/pypy/jit/backend/ppc/ppcgen/: Define getarrayitem_raw, getfield_raw, etc.  Sign extend getfield result.22:52
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Alex_Gaynorfijal: map is now app level, not a jitdriver22:56
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Alex_Gaynorgsnedders: for a while map had it's own JIT, for slightly silly reasons22:59
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kenaan12alex_gaynor jit-dynamic-getarrayitem 1199d01fa4f6a8 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/optimizeopt/fficall.py: show the annotator this case isn't posssible23:07
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gsneddersHmm, seeing far smaller difference between PyPy and cPython with html5lib now than in the u-s benchmark. Also results in the real-world make PyPy look less good with ElementTree than the really-only-for-testing-only-treebuilder.23:13
gsneddersAnd the slow-down from cProfile seems to be greater in PyPy. I presume results are still decently representitive, though?23:15
Alex_Gaynorgsnedders: yes, they should be.23:15
Action: Alex_Gaynor always found it hard, how do you know if your clock is wrong?23:15
Action: gsnedders is reminded of bug in Carakan leading `var d1 = new Date(); var d2 = new Date(); print(d1 < d2);` to be false23:16
gsneddersWell, <= really23:16
Alex_GaynorIf you've got a benchmark where we're slower, or less faster-than you'd like, please file a bug.23:17
gsneddersWell, the issue I think is more that the benchmark there currently is in the repo isn't really testing the interesting case, and newer versions of the library certainly affect the PyPy:cPython perf ratio. Hard to tell which has changed, though.23:18
Alex_Gaynorwe also take new benchmarks :)23:19
gsnedders(I guess you don't want to change existing benchmarks because it'd invalidate the history)23:19
Alex_Gaynorright23:20
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nedbatAlex_Gaynor: i'm trying your command in the 1.6 sources (tip is unstable now).23:22
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gsneddersAlex_Gaynor: I guess I'd just argue I'd like a parser in Python to be as quick as one in C++. :)23:32
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gsneddersWow. Parsing the HTML5 spec converted to XML PyPy takes half the memory of CPython. Impressive.23:47
pjenveygsnedders - is that w/ elementtree?23:48
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gsnedderspjenvey: Yeah.23:50
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