| lac | chronitis: this is a hard problem. I did a heck of a lot of memoryview adding about a year ago | 00:00 |
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| amaury_ | the _String_String version is only a String_ANY function with a additional isinstance(w_obj2, W_StringObject) | 00:00 |
| lac | and well, the problem is that memoryviews are not fully implemented. | 00:00 |
| lac | so you need to think, not 'how to get this test to pass' but rather 'how the heck this is supposed to work at all' | 00:01 |
| amaury_ | yeah, this new buffer interface was never finished in CPython | 00:01 |
| exarkun | Not only not fully implemented, but not fully understood. | 00:01 |
| exarkun | Quite possibly not fully defined. :) | 00:01 |
| chronitis | lac: well, yes (hence "mostly done in a shallow way") | 00:01 |
| lac | and sometimes, at least for me, this is a walk around the mountains, think a lot, then ask armin or amoury | 00:01 |
| lac | and then its 'ah, well, do this but its wrong' no matter what you do. | 00:02 |
| amaury_ | for me it's also a walk around various modules & functions | 00:02 |
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| lac | amaury (sorry for the typo) | 00:02 |
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| chronitis | is anyone else working on this bit at the moment? | 00:02 |
| lac | unless Alex_Gaynor is, I think the answer is no | 00:03 |
| lac | and he will get the name mentioned notification now. | 00:03 |
| Alex_Gaynor | py3k? No I need to finish up my numpy stuff this week, then I move onto py3k stuff | 00:03 |
| lac | and I think pretty sure, the answer is no. but ask alex | 00:03 |
| lac | he is working on memoryview stuff. | 00:04 |
| chronitis | useful to know | 00:04 |
| Alex_Gaynor | I am? | 00:04 |
| lac | that too, :-) | 00:04 |
| chronitis | heh | 00:04 |
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| amaury_ | gn | 00:05 |
| chronitis | 'night | 00:05 |
| lac | sorry -- i said this in a way for bad parsing., | 00:05 |
| lac | I meant. | 00:05 |
| lac | if you want to work on py3k stuff, alex is one that is working on that too, and Alex, this guy wants to be and is working on the memory view stuff | 00:05 |
| Alex_Gaynor | ah, ok | 00:06 |
| lac | I think I plugged each of you into the msg meant for each other in an amazing act of linguistic overoptimisation. | 00:06 |
| lac | studiung this as a way for miscommiunication might get me a masters in linguistics if I do it properly. :-) | 00:07 |
| chronitis | or a job in PR | 00:07 |
| chronitis | depending on whether I get a job interview, I might get a lot done on this over the next week or rather less so | 00:08 |
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| lac | good luck to you then, which ever way luck shines. | 00:08 |
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| chronitis | indeed | 00:09 |
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| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11a099f70075f5 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: allowisntantiating numpy boxes from applevel | 05:07 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: in getinteriorfield on x86 there's assert isinstance(ofs_loc, ImmedLoc) | 06:53 |
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| fijal | that's getinteriorfield | 06:53 |
| fijal | not getarrayitem | 06:54 |
| Alex_Gaynor | I can't follow getarrayitem code, it's much more complex than getinteriofield code | 06:55 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: on numpy-dtype-refactor test_zjit doesn't translate, but only if you also run other numpy tets, if you run it by itself it passes fine. Can you take a look? | 06:56 |
| fijal | nice | 06:57 |
| fijal | yeah I guess | 06:57 |
| fijal | "other tests" are what? | 06:57 |
| Alex_Gaynor | pytest.py pypy/module/micronumpy/ -x fails | 06:58 |
| Alex_Gaynor | /test_zjit.py passes | 06:58 |
| Alex_Gaynor | the failing test is zjit in the first though | 06:58 |
| Alex_Gaynor | obscure translation stuff I guess, i don't know :/ | 06:58 |
| kenaan | 12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11cc5e404f423b 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/test/test_numarray.py: fix those tests - downside: they're for fortran layout | 06:59 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: so are we in a race to merge branches now? | 07:03 |
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| fijal | if I fix your translation bug how is this a race? | 07:05 |
| fijal | :-P | 07:05 |
| fijal | I just commited it so I can swap branches | 07:05 |
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| fijal | space_0: SomeInstance(can_be_None=False, classdef=pypy.module.micronumpy.compile.FakeSpace) | 07:07 |
| fijal | that's a wrong annotation | 07:08 |
| fijal | it should be SomePBC | 07:08 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: pff, I know it being an isntance of the right class was too obvious | 07:08 |
| fijal | :) | 07:08 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: I guess translator sees another instance from somewhere | 07:08 |
| fijal | you're probably mixing two | 07:08 |
| fijal | yes | 07:08 |
| fijal | I guess one is create in test_zjit and the other on the base class or so? | 07:08 |
| fijal | or space.fromcache is not safe | 07:09 |
| fijal | I don't know | 07:09 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: uh, probably, I don't know, I don' thtink I changed anything | 07:09 |
| Alex_Gaynor | feel like looking at my diff | 07:09 |
| fijal | no :) | 07:10 |
| fijal | you might have touched the world | 07:10 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | I'm sure I did, I just don't know how touching asia broke latin america. | 07:10 |
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| fijal | you probably store the result of space.fromcache on a type or so | 07:11 |
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| fijal | somewhere where it can be seen even if space is different now | 07:11 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: I just read my diff of tests/ and compile.py and I don't see how I broke it :/ | 07:13 |
| fijal | ok | 07:13 |
| fijal | I'll fix it, but I'm changing the venue now | 07:13 |
| Alex_Gaynor | "changing the venue"? | 07:14 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | oh | 07:15 |
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| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: I dunno :( | 08:43 |
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| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: it's weird | 09:31 |
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| CIA-68 | 03alexband 07roundup * 10#928/syslog.openlog behavior different from CPython: | 09:53 |
| CIA-68 | [new] hi, I use syslog.openlog in pypy 1.6. | 09:53 |
| CIA-68 | it result that, TypeError Exception Value openlog() takes exactly 3 arguments (1 | 09:53 |
| CIA-68 | given) | 09:53 |
| CIA-68 | but it see ... * 14https://bugs.pypy.org/issue928 | 09:53 |
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| bbot2 | 4Failure: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-ppc-32/builds/3 [12David Schneider, ppc-jit-backend] | 10:07 |
| CIA-68 | 03afa 07roundup * 10#928/syslog.openlog behavior different from CPython: | 10:12 |
| CIA-68 | [chatting] Yes, pypy should be updated. Fortunately you can do it in your local copy. | 10:12 |
| CIA-68 | in lib_pypy/syslog.py, the function header: | 10:12 |
| CIA-68 | def open ... * 14https://bugs.pypy.org/issue928 | 10:12 |
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| kenaan | 12arigo default 11d6424b565434 15/pypy/module/math/test/test_translated.py: Added a failing test. | 11:12 |
| kenaan | 12arigo default 1114495ad804bc 15/pypy/rpython/lltypesystem/module/ll_math.py: The hack "y + VERY_LARGE_FLOAT == y" fails to give the correct result on gcc, not only on msvc. Revert to the comp... | 11:12 |
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| mattip | fijal: ping | 11:47 |
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| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 11cee2830d1a69 15/pypy/jit/backend/arm/test/test_runner.py: fix tests | 12:58 |
| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 1173ba39e70415 15/pypy/jit/backend/arm/assembler.py: improve freeing of boxes in the backend | 12:58 |
| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 1166a82d2d9786 15/pypy/jit/backend/: Add a method to allocate a scratch register that is managed by the register manager. The register manager kee... | 12:58 |
| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 11a3207081d5fb 15/pypy/jit/backend/arm/: refactor _ensure_value_is_boxed to use a managed scratch_register and to not return the box for the allocated... | 12:58 |
| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 1135ea8271c7ee 15/pypy/jit/backend/test/runner_test.py: fix test | 12:58 |
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| kenaan | 12l.diekmann type-specialized-instances 112ae5b770cb48 15/: (l.diekmann, cfbolz): a branch to play with the idea of type-specializing instances | 13:01 |
| kenaan | 12l.diekmann type-specialized-instances 119348749a851e 15/pypy/objspace/std/: do not use index anymore to read attributes. in future the attributes manage (un)erasing an... | 13:01 |
| kenaan | 12l.diekmann type-specialized-instances 11c905b06f965f 15/pypy/objspace/std/: read attributes only through Attribute class. fixed tests | 13:01 |
| fijal | hi | 13:02 |
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| arigato | hi | 13:08 |
| Rhy0lite | hi | 13:08 |
| Action: fijal fights a confusing annotator error | 13:09 | |
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| cfbolz | hello | 13:13 |
| fijal | hi carl | 13:13 |
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| dibb | Hi there. Micke @ Open End here. We need to shut down tannit for a short while (more than a few minutes, less than an hour). Is that alright? | 13:16 |
| fijal | fine by me | 13:18 |
| fijal | and fine by buildbot | 13:18 |
| fijal | arigato: you? | 13:18 |
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| dibb | I'm gonna assume the silence means "yes" ;-> | 13:20 |
| dibb | Anyway, it should be up again before too long. | 13:20 |
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| arigato | dibb: yes, fine | 13:21 |
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| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 115786677fd91d 15/pypy/: merge default | 13:40 |
| kenaan | 12bivab arm-backend-2 110fc247cc5f82 15/pypy/jit/backend/arm/regalloc.py: Bah, fix. | 13:40 |
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| fijal | arigato: have you seen my blog post draft about performance? | 14:04 |
| fijal | https://bitbucket.org/fijal/talk/src/c44127af96c5/blog/analysing-performance.rst | 14:05 |
| fijal | notably this one | 14:06 |
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| fijal | lac: hi | 14:32 |
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| arigato | fijal: interesting post, still reading | 14:56 |
| arigato | fijal: I think you should mention that you're running in a virtualenv with pypy, otherwise running "./test.py" does not explicitly say "run it with pypy, not cpython" | 14:57 |
| fijal | yes | 14:57 |
| arigato | (although it might be clear if we think about the context, it's not really clear a priori) | 14:57 |
| fijal | I should explain more explicitely about tools | 14:58 |
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| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: hey | 15:01 |
| fijal | ? | 15:01 |
| fijal | arigato: I was thinking about putting it to my personal blog | 15:03 |
| fijal | but it can go to the pypy blog as well | 15:03 |
| fijal | what do you think? | 15:03 |
| Rhy0lite | Alex_Gaynor: see pvt | 15:03 |
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| fijal | Rhy0lite: hi | 15:03 |
| Rhy0lite | hi, Maciej | 15:04 |
| lac | hi fijal, everybody | 15:04 |
| arigato | hi | 15:04 |
| Rhy0lite | fijal: armin was correct in his determination. Sven's code was not using the correct instruction to treat | 15:05 |
| Rhy0lite | scale as an immediate. | 15:05 |
| Rhy0lite | This also now matches ARM backend | 15:05 |
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| dibb | fijal, arigato: tannit ought to be up again, btw | 15:12 |
| arigato | dibb: thank you! | 15:12 |
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| Zira | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/508752/ | 16:22 |
| Zira | What compiler am I supposed to use? | 16:22 |
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| Zira | If I do not specify a compiler, it gives me error: Unable to find vcvarsall.bat | 16:23 |
| ronny | Zira: put it on the PATH? | 16:23 |
| Zira | ronny: Put what in the path? | 16:23 |
| ronny | mingw | 16:23 |
| ronny | it did state that it cant find gcc | 16:24 |
| ronny | also i tihnk it makes sense to figure what compiler is used to build pypy on win32 | 16:24 |
| Zira | I have ;C:\MinGW\mingw32\bin; in my path | 16:24 |
| ronny | (i have no idea which one it is) | 16:24 |
| Zira | Are trailing slashes needed? | 16:25 |
| ronny | not sure | 16:25 |
| Zira | Oh. By the way, it also gives me an actual popup-warning. | 16:26 |
| Zira | "The application can not start because libintl-8.dll is missing" | 16:27 |
| Alex_Gaynor | Rhy0lite: I didn't get a PM from you. | 16:27 |
| ronny | Zira: i have no idea how to propperly deal with the win32 issues tho | 16:28 |
| ronny | (im on linux, stuff just works) | 16:28 |
| Zira | Linux does not have ImageGrab though. | 16:29 |
| Zira | (PIL) | 16:29 |
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| kenaan | 12hager ppc-jit-backend 117ad615ae7faf 15/pypy/jit/backend/ppc/ppcgen/: Implemented NEW_WITH_VTABLE | 16:38 |
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| Zira | Why are not installers for modules for PyPy provided to the extent installers for old versions of Python are? | 17:28 |
| ronny | Zira: cause pypy developers are not the mainainers of hundrets/thousands of binary packags? | 17:33 |
| Zira | I mean, not the developers of PyPy - The developers of the packages. | 17:34 |
| ronny | well, its work | 17:34 |
| Zira | I do not see the sense in supporting ancient versions of Python but not PyPy. | 17:34 |
| ronny | Zira: f the build machne is correctly set p and in place, its just running a s crpt once | 17:35 |
| MostAwesomeDude | Zira: It's not up to PyPy to support Python packages if the packages are not written portably. | 17:35 |
| Zira | I never really blamed PyPy. | 17:36 |
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| rguillebert | Zira, because they don't use PyPy probably | 18:20 |
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| kenaan | 12hakanardo jit-targets 11b07f3eacf8ae 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/: test_target_loop_kept_alive_or_not relies on send_bridge_to_backend() NOT increasing the generation of its ... | 19:05 |
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| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 1198e8d0b934b3 15/pypy/: merged default | 19:26 |
| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11f0a1bcf419fb 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: translation fixes | 19:26 |
| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11d30c5c155528 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/types.py: translation fix | 19:26 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | arigato: do you know what's up with the memory error while translating in ctypes? | 19:36 |
| arigato | yes | 19:36 |
| arigato | see 913f736ff114 | 19:37 |
| arigato | so it works only if you're using a very recent pypy to run translate.py | 19:37 |
| Alex_Gaynor | arigato: so what do I need to do to fix it? I see it translating my branch with both 1.6 and a semi-recent pypy-c | 19:37 |
| arigato | grab the nightly pypy and try translating again with that | 19:39 |
| Alex_Gaynor | ok, thanks | 19:39 |
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