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| fijal | hi | 07:22 |
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| kenaan | 12fijal default 11a12c7868cd94 15/pypy/jit/backend/x86/test/test_ztranslation.py: fix the test | 07:35 |
| kenaan | 12fijal release-1.7.x 11ff4af8f31882 15/pypy/jit/backend/x86/test/test_ztranslation.py: fix the test | 07:35 |
| kenaan | 12fijal default 11c2d0f2933d2f 15/pypy/jit/backend/x86/test/test_ztranslation.py: merge | 07:35 |
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| kenaan | 12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 1121a78357a235 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: start working on broadcasting - a helper function | 08:08 |
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| fijal | pfff | 08:09 |
| fijal | yet-another-refactoring-in-progress | 08:09 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: I used the "PyPy is a sturggle between the universe producing more bearded yaks and pypy developers shaving them" in my talk | 08:11 |
| fijal | ergh | 08:11 |
| fijal | string printing is broken :/ | 08:11 |
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| CIA-68 | 03hruske 07roundup * 10#926/string concatenation using + kills PyPy: Works okay without segfaults now, in about the same time (13s-14s). * 14https://bugs.pypy.org/issue926 | 08:16 |
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| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: I'm inclined to revert non-working hacks for super-fastness | 08:18 |
| fijal | and instead just use regular approach for iterators | 08:18 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: I'm always inclined to revert non-working hacks | 08:18 |
| fijal | which would not work neatly until we have store sinking across loop boundaries | 08:18 |
| fijal | ok :) | 08:18 |
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| kvda | Hello | 10:38 |
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| Rhyolite | 56 | 12:29 |
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| Optuspty | Hi, Any users of Qt and Gtk? | 13:56 |
| timonator | i use pyside a bit, but not with pypy | 13:58 |
| Optuspty | I need to produce a software program using Python with a GUI, not sure if Qt or Gtk is the way to go? | 13:59 |
| timonator | this is definitely the wrong channel for that kind of question | 13:59 |
| Optuspty | I am not a programmer, so the easier one for me would be better | 13:59 |
| Optuspty | which channel would you suggest? | 13:59 |
| timonator | hm, have you checked stackoverflow? they usually have well-edited posts with lots of insightful comments | 14:00 |
| timonator | (that is, stackoverflow.com i believe, the website) | 14:00 |
| Optuspty | ok thanks bye | 14:01 |
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| hakanardo | fijal: pong | 15:10 |
| fijal_ | hakanardo: hey | 15:11 |
| fijal_ | let's move here | 15:11 |
| Rhyolite | hi, fijal_ | 15:11 |
| fijal_ | so I have an issue with things not being virtual when they should be | 15:11 |
| fijal_ | hi Rhyolite | 15:12 |
| Nick change: fijal_ -> fijal | 15:12 | |
| Rhyolite | thanks for helping with the backend tests | 15:12 |
| fijal | np | 15:12 |
| fijal | they are confusing | 15:12 |
| fijal | hakanardo: do you need a way to reproduce? | 15:13 |
| hakanardo | you are still talking about the arrays from a few days back? | 15:13 |
| hakanardo | the issue there was that they were not virtual at the end of the preamble | 15:14 |
| hakanardo | becasue the length was not known to be constant in the preamble | 15:14 |
| fijal | but it was known to be constant in the loop right? | 15:14 |
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| hakanardo | rigth so it was proven to be constant at some time after the new_array I suppose | 15:15 |
| fijal | hum ok | 15:15 |
| fijal | I'll try to get them to work :/ | 15:15 |
| fijal | I'll start with broadcasting though | 15:15 |
| fijal | ideally I don't want any new_arrays at all | 15:15 |
| fijal | but then I would like store sinking across the loop | 15:15 |
| hakanardo | that should be dooable | 15:16 |
| hakanardo | you'll need to place a getitem_gc for ever stored setitem in the short preamble | 15:17 |
| fijal | how hard it would be? | 15:17 |
| fijal | ok, let me solve the mess I have right now in the branch, cause I'm in the middle of implementing something | 15:17 |
| fijal | and then we can discuss | 15:17 |
| fijal | hum | 15:17 |
| fijal | maybe I can just try to solve it now... | 15:17 |
| hakanardo | ok I dont think it will be hard | 15:18 |
| fijal | famouse last words... | 15:18 |
| hakanardo | I know :) | 15:18 |
| fijal | hakanardo: ok, I pushed a working revision | 15:23 |
| fijal | first thing is to promote the length of the shape, I'm doing it just now | 15:23 |
| kenaan | 12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11638b988b580e 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: in-progress. Get this into some shape so we can run tests | 15:24 |
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| fijal | pff, mess :/ | 15:25 |
| fijal | hakanardo: I can't promote a thing that's computed before the start of the loop | 15:25 |
| fijal | pfff | 15:25 |
| hakanardo | insert a guard_value? | 15:26 |
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| fijal | hakanardo: ok good | 15:27 |
| fijal | so do | 15:27 |
| fijal | hg up numpy-multidim-shards | 15:27 |
| kenaan | 12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 11fede8d91e0a4 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_numarray.py: promote shape length | 15:28 |
| fijal | py.test pypy/module/micronumpy/test/test_zjit -k test_multidim_slice --viewloops -s -x | 15:28 |
| fijal | there is a bunch of get/setfields/arrayitems that I would like to get rid of | 15:28 |
| hakanardo | pulling... | 15:33 |
| hakanardo | there are lots of arrays there | 15:36 |
| hakanardo | I guess it's those with index Const(1) you want to get rid of? | 15:36 |
| hakanardo | when did you last merge in the default branch? | 15:38 |
| hakanardo | the setarrayitem om p17 should be cached already | 15:39 |
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| hakanardo | you need to merge in 8b75e3ece413 from default | 15:41 |
| fijal | yes | 15:42 |
| fijal | ok | 15:42 |
| fijal | all that are not xxx_raw | 15:42 |
| fijal | raw are actual loads/stores | 15:42 |
| hakanardo | I think merging should get rid of all the getarrayitem_gc | 15:43 |
| hakanardo | for the setarrayitem_gc's we'll need storesinking | 15:44 |
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| fijal | ok, merged | 15:47 |
| kenaan | 12fijal numpy-multidim-shards 116717f12a3702 15/: merge default | 15:48 |
| hakanardo | I got to run again, but I can help out more tomorrow | 15:54 |
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| fijal | hakanardo: cool, will try to catch you | 15:56 |
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| mattip | fijal: hi | 16:13 |
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| bbot2 | 4Failure: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/11 [12ctismer, default] | 16:28 |
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| mattip | fijal: Some of the shard branch tests are broken since a) broadcast code now is more pedantic (correctly) and b) module name changed | 16:52 |
| mattip | fijal: Would you like me to clean them up and commit? | 16:53 |
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| stakkars | how'dy! | 17:33 |
| stakkars | I'm trying to get continue let to work on windows. | 17:33 |
| stakkars | but I think the windows DLL support is broken. | 17:34 |
| stakkars | everything compiles fine, but the generated all has nothing to find for types. | 17:35 |
| stakkars | ctypes | 17:35 |
| stakkars | I see that we don't use __declspec(dlexport), nor an exports file. | 17:46 |
| stakkars | How could this _ | 17:46 |
| stakkars | ever_ work? | 17:46 |
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| ronny | hmm, i wondering if there isnt a nicer than autopath | 17:52 |
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| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11bdbd25961ae0 15/pypy/: merged default | 18:04 |
| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11be3f1bb6a45c 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/test/test_dtypes.py: update for new module name | 18:04 |
| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 1193b855d2ce60 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: running all tests together now passes | 18:04 |
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| stakkars_ | Hi! | 19:21 |
| stakkars_ | who workes on windows? | 19:21 |
| stakkars_ | I do, but have a question before I hack on DLL stuff | 19:22 |
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| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11f65a5c270040 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: recognize scalars in array's constrcutor when guessing types | 19:27 |
| amaury_ | stakkars: I did work on windows | 19:28 |
| stakkars_ | great, thanks | 19:30 |
| stakkars_ | there is a DLL problem, and I wonder if buildin DLL was lost a few months ago | 19:30 |
| amaury_ | Normally translation tests work on win32 | 19:31 |
| amaury_ | and many of them build dlls | 19:31 |
| amaury_ | (or pyd modules) | 19:32 |
| amaury_ | and: pypy.exe is just a stub, all the code is in a libpypy.dll | 19:33 |
| amaury_ | what kind of problem do you have? | 19:34 |
| stakkars_ | amaury_: there is no __declspec and nor a .def file | 19:34 |
| stakkars_ | but I checked, ctypes cannot find externals | 19:34 |
| stakkars_ | specifically, all test on continuelet are suffering that | 19:34 |
| stakkars_ | continuelet stuff calls into a dll via ctypes, and for that we have no exports | 19:35 |
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| amaury_ | ah, functions in rlib/_rffi_stacklet.py? | 19:35 |
| stakkars_ | I want to add it, -- yess | 19:35 |
| amaury_ | the DLL must export the symbols | 19:35 |
| amaury_ | can be with a declspec(dllexport) | 19:36 |
| stakkars_ | I was just wondering what the state is. | 19:36 |
| amaury_ | but the RPython way | 19:36 |
| stakkars_ | I know i kno | 19:36 |
| amaury_ | is to add a export_symbols to the ECI object | 19:36 |
| amaury_ | see rlib/libffi.py for example | 19:36 |
| stakkars_ | Rpython? Ah | 19:36 |
| amaury_ | export_symbols = ['ffi_call',... | 19:37 |
| stakkars_ | that means I don't supply extra .def or declspec. Thanks a lot!! | 19:38 |
| stakkars_ | that's why I needed you - I don't know all what is built in already | 19:38 |
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| stakkars_ | amaury_: Is there a reason to do the export_symbols def by hand? It could be done automatically using dumpbin and a little script. | 20:30 |
| stakkars_ | Should I go for it? | 20:31 |
| amaury_ | dumpbin on the DLL, or on .obj files? | 20:32 |
| stakkars_ | on object files | 20:33 |
| amaury_ | so this would export all non-static symbols | 20:33 |
| amaury_ | a bit like Unix | 20:33 |
| stakkars_ | Yep. I'm just not sure if that has a drawback? But cygwin does it, too | 20:34 |
| amaury_ | for the small DLLs used in tests, it makes sense | 20:35 |
| amaury_ | but I wonder what the result would be for a full translation | 20:36 |
| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 1143e36f217520 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: fix a bunch of tests, not sure how I ddi'nt catch this before | 20:36 |
| stakkars_ | amaury_: well, and for the small tests no dumpbin is needed, just an automated addition of the missing symbol. But maybe it is less effort to just put the few defs in by hand, doing that now | 20:40 |
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| kenaan | 12alex_gaynor numpy-dtype-refactor 11d7a04dcb76c5 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: expose another thing at app level | 20:47 |
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| kronos | I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and I tried to run pypy (1.6). I get the following error : bin/pypy: error while loading shared libraries: libffi.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 20:53 |
| kronos | I have installed already libffi-dev. | 20:53 |
| kronos | Please help | 20:53 |
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| kronos | I have the file libffi.so.6 present. Is the version of the library the problem? Any solutions? | 20:57 |
| kvda | Good morning | 21:01 |
| Alex_Gaynor | hey kvda | 21:02 |
| kvda | Hey Alex_Gaynor | 21:04 |
| kvda | Did you get fijal's email about permalinks? That's for sections that haven't link right? Like 'Get Involved' should be linkable... | 21:06 |
| Alex_Gaynor | I assume so | 21:06 |
| Alex_Gaynor | all the linked-to sections are linkable | 21:06 |
| kvda | Yeah it must be that, also installation instructions | 21:07 |
| Alex_Gaynor | ah yeah, the install instructions is the most impotant I think | 21:07 |
| kvda | I think if we 'unpack' the Why PyPy content into seperate sections the tab behaviour is only used on 'Features' and on 'About' page. | 21:08 |
| Alex_Gaynor | right | 21:08 |
| kvda | I'll have a play with it, maybe losing the tab behaviour competly will be the final solution. | 21:09 |
| kvda | But then I would recommend moving Features onto it's own page, as the content will be too long and detailed for the front page | 21:09 |
| Alex_Gaynor | hmm, I think we'd want to keep at least some of it on the homepage, so I think the tabbed behavior is ok, we just need the install section to be linkable | 21:10 |
| kvda | Ah ok | 21:11 |
| Alex_Gaynor | at least, I find the tabbed sections fine | 21:11 |
| kenaan | 12ctismer default 11b64cba156148 15/pypy/: got continuelets ready for windows. There were two things where I stumbled quite a while. 1) _compile_c_file wa... | 21:17 |
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| kenaan | 12ctismer win64-stage1 11a096ecd9fea3 15/pypy/: mertsch | 21:39 |
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| nedbat | anyone around that can help me understand sandbox mode? | 21:53 |
| Alex_Gaynor | nedbat: If gutworth is around he might be able to, unfortunately i'm useless and I think it's late in europe | 21:54 |
| nedbat | When I run it, it always shows this line, maybe it isn't particular to sandbox? [platform:execute] gcc -c -O3 -pthread -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wno-unused /tmp/usession-default-9/platcheck_7.c -o /tmp/usession-default-9/platcheck_7.o | 21:54 |
| nedbat | Alex_Gaynor: I don't even know if that's a sandbox thing or a pypy general thing. | 21:54 |
| Alex_Gaynor | well, that means something got imported that needs to compute something about a C size or type | 21:54 |
| Alex_Gaynor | if that *should* happen with a sandbox, I don't know | 21:55 |
| nedbat | is it really running that command, or just printing that for some reason? | 21:55 |
| Alex_Gaynor | yes, it's really running that | 21:55 |
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| nedbat | Alex_Gaynor: do you know how I can get it to stop? | 21:57 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | nedbat: from printing that, or compiling? | 21:57 |
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| exarkun | After it does it once, it should cache the answer? I remember something about caching. | 22:01 |
| nedbat | every time I invoke the process, it prints that first. | 22:02 |
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| nedbat | Alex_Gaynor, exarkun: This happens every time I run the pypy-c program I got from building with --sandbox. | 22:03 |
| Alex_Gaynor | I honestly have no idea, you'll probably want to mail the mailing list, (or come around during euro-daytime) | 22:03 |
| exarkun | Yea, I don't really know either. | 22:04 |
| nedbat | ok, it isn't one of my top 3 problems now anyway. | 22:05 |
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